Site Profit Bot vs WP Robot & WP ManagerDX – What's the Difference?
This post is triggered by a number of emails I received and comments posted on this blog … so I though if responding to it in a post and also inviting visitors to share their comments for all to benefit …
Here is one such email I received …
I discovered you site thru someone at warrior forum, and glad I did.
I've just tested out the mage and ran into a number of problems with hosting companies and the cpmage cpanel.I'm looking to change and am a bit confused with what the difference is between Site Profit Bot or WP Robot & WP ManagerDX. Do you have any posts comparing these?
Also Edna at WF has this deal WP ManagerDX and Article ManagerDX scripts at no cost when you join the yearly membership at UltimatePLR.com or NicheBloggerDX.com. Is Article ManagerDX the same as WP Robot?
Here is my response … (read till the end … I've got a little tip for you plus a coupon code for WP-Robot) …
In a nut shell …
Site Profit Bot is a complete website builder that automatically aggregates content from online sources including news sites, related forums, related blogs, podcasts, videos, press releases etc. You can also drop in your unique articles which will appear in the blog section of the website. Site Profit Bot uses pre-designed templates and with the input of a single keyword, it builds a complete website in under 60 seconds. The site will include monetization comprising Amazon, ebay and Adsense links with your affiliate IDs.
Site Profit Bot is not built on the Wordpress platform and hence it is low maintenance … no need to upgrade WP, plugins etc …
For more detailed information on Site Profit Bot, you can read my review here.
On the other hand …
WP-Robot is a Wordpress plugin that automates the publishing of content into your WordPress blogs from Yahoo Answers, Articlebase articles, Youtube videos, Yahoo News, 3rd party RSS feeds, and integrates Flickr images, Amazon and eBay products into your posts.
You can get WP-Robot for less if you use the coupon code – WarriorRobot
(it is valid at the time of writing this post)
You can back-date, publish immediately or schedule these multi-source content into your blog. With WP-Robot you will need to set up your WordPress blogs first before you can use the features/functions of WP-Robot.
Check out the new features of WP-Robot 2.0 here. The new MIX feature looks interesting …
WPmanagerDX – If you wish to speed up the setting up and management of WordPress blogs, you might want to look at WPmanagerDX which does this. (For those of you who used WP-Mage, it is in many ways the equivalent of CP-Mage)
WpmanagerDX also has some similar modules/functionality to WP-Robot (see below) so you might want to look it up before you finalize on WP-Robot.
Note: I haven't tested out the auto content features of WPmanagerDX and hence cannot comment on it.
WPmanagerDX costs $97 (plus there is an annual maintenance fee – I don't know how much, though). If you sign up for the product owner's yearly membership of UltimatePLR.com or NicheBloggerDX.com, you will get WP ManagerDX and Article ManagerDX scripts at no cost.
ArticleManagerDX is a hosted application that allows you to upload your own articles to your WP blogs on auto-pilot.
My Personal Recommendation – WP-Robot vs WPmanagerDX :
For auto-content publishing to Wordpress, I would choose WP-Robot over WPmanagerDX, simply beacuse it is more feature rich at this point in time (and also because it does not have an annual maintence fee)!
However, I would also use WPmanagerDX to manage my WP blogs – its a great time saver to set up and maintain blogs … you have a single control panel for your entire WP blog real-estate!
A Useful Tip:
I use a combination of Site Profit Bot and Wordpress (on the same site) with WP-Robot to maximize on the power delivered by both engines (and of course I use WPmanagerDX to manage the blog).
Here's what I do (you need to be comfortable with modifying php code) -
I first install a site using Site Profit Bot (60 secs)! Then I set up a 'blog' folder on the domain and install WordPress in it with WP-Robot (plus my other standard plugins). I then modify the following php file to point its Blog page to the Wordpress blog I set up.
menu.php file (you will find this file in the main folder of your website) -
1. Change - if ($isarticle=="1") to if ($isarticle=="0")
2. Change the href= from "< ?php echo $baseurlpath;?>article" to "http://your-url-here.com/blog/"That's all there is to it … now go set up your Wordpress installation in the 'blog ' folder
Bingo … I now have a website that is generating auto content from 12-14 sources.
The benefit? I have the power of Site Profit Bot pulling content based on tag keywords from the social sites plus I have a more controlled blog which pulls content from more sources based on my carefully selected keywords and also my own unique articles.
And yes, I have been able to have my WP blog have the same look and feel as the SPB template. Click Here to get the same WP theme that is used by the SPB program.
Here is another sample site with the SPB generated website nested within a Wordpress Blog -
Download this free (unofficial) guide on SiteProfitBot
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Comments on Site Profit Bot vs WP Robot & WP ManagerDX – What's the Difference?
Andy,
Thanks to your fantastic idea! Sure this makes us have the best of two worlds!
But this will make you lose the ability of uploading your own articles.
Can you be more specific about modifying the index page?
Hi Richard,
I load up my articles in the Wordpress blog … and also have the flexibility to add Adsense blocks …
You will need to modify the code in the index page of your SPB generated site … to change the blog (article) page setting and the redirect to the WP blog site …
If you're comfortable with modifying php code, its a cake walk …
Andy
I would like to know how Site Profit Bot compares to Multi Profit Websites.
Jack,
I noticed Multi Profit Websites is closed to the public now …
Andy
Hi Andy,
I know but MPW will be offered again and I wonder if it is worth waiting for. I've just heard about Site Profit Bot and was curious as to how it compares to MPW.
Jack
Hi Jack,
I'm sorry … I did not get the chance to evaluate MPW and so cannot give you a conclusive reply …
Andy
Hi Andy,
Two things.
Does Site Profit work on a Mac?
Is it a problem with only being able to use one keyword?
How does Site Profit choose what keyword to use based on the one you choose, and what if you want to use a keyword that is less popular?
Thanks,
Bob
Hi Bob,
SPB only works on Windows OS … you can run it on the Mac if you use Windows OS with Boot Camp.
Regarding using 1 keyword … not a problem … you can get good content if you use a broad niche keyword (eg. Christmas Gifts) … it will pull all related Christmas Gift keywords from the tags used on social media sites (blogosphere, forums, podcasts, videos, etc …) … for your target keywords (long-tail or high-traffic/low competition) use them in the title of your articles and have these articles optimized for these selected keywords …. you will get amazing results …
Here's a monetization tip … if there are good products from Clickbank in your niche, you can use CBproAds and have the related Clickbank product banners automatically rotate in one of advertising placeholders on the site …
Hope this helps.
Andy
Andy , Great Post – I have no problem editing php code as long as I'm given the correct script to paste into my ftp editing file.
Care to give out the redirecting codes you use and where you put them in reference to SPB?
mitch
Hi Mitch,
You need to make the following changes to the menu.php file (you will find this file in the main folder of your website) -
1. Change - if ($isarticle=="1") to if ($isarticle=="0")
2. Change the href= from "< ?php echo $baseurlpath;?>article" to "http://your-url-here.com/blog/"
That's all there is to it … now go set up your Wordpress installation in the 'blog ' folder
All the best,
Andy
Hello All,
I must say it is really a great strategy and in fact it is working wonderfully on my website,the only problem is if you look at the footer the "Latest Post" is still there and it is empty.I tried to put some Article to the article directory and what happens was the blog menu that i set up disappears.Is there a way around this?
Hi Eric,
You can delete that segment of the footer and replace it with something else (pick the code from the Jungleland theme) … whatever you do, don't add articles in the article directory (your blog on the menu will disappear since you have changed the related attribute in the menu.php from 1 to 0).
All the best.
Andy
Andy,
Thanks for your very quick response to my first post. I look forward to some great info. from your newsletters.
A few more questions:
1. When setting up the WP blog, do you do it using your domain name, then have SPB link to it?
2. I can't open the menu.php to change the attributes. What should I use to open it?
3. I see in all of your sites that the picture links to the Amazon, eBay, Videos and Podcasts are missing. Did you do that on purpose, or is this the result of the WP blog or WP Robot software?
I was ready to cancel my SiteProfitBot, but after your comments and suggestions, I can't wait to see the results in my SPB sites!
Many thanks,
David
David,
Your answers -
1. I only use my own hosted blogs … I either set up my blog in the root folder and then create an 'about' folder or where I drop the SPB site in (see Pregnancy site) or I install the SPB site in the root folder and create a 'blog' folder wherein I install the WP site (see Christmas site).
2. You need to open it up in Notepad or Notepad++ (my preference).
3. I just didn't like the images … so I removed them.
Here's my advise to you … You really don't need to combine SPB with WP (I would advise you not to mess around with .php files if you are not yet comfortable doing so – if you still wish to do it, then always create a backup copy of the original files) … SPB sites on their own will work fine … just create some unique articles optimized for your chosen keywords and drop them into the SPB articles folder. Spend the next 90 days creating new sites and promoting them. Don't bother with checking whether or not the sites are indexed or are they bringing in revenue for the next 90 days … just focus on building and promoting!
Here's why I gave you the above advise – the SPB test site on 'Learn Guitar' I launched on Nov 26 has already brought in $36 in Adsense revenue and SPB has automatically created over 1400 pages which has been indexed by Google (and therefore getting organic search traffic). Many of the pages are already appearing on page 1 of Google for the tag keywords.
In my newsletter release next week I will be providing you with a clear plan for promoting your sites … so watch out for it.
Hope this helps.
Andy
Hi Andy,
I opened up the menu file for one os my Site Profit Bot sites and this is the code I had <a href="article">Blog where you said to look for "article".
My question is – does the menu file having the blog listing after "article" mean anything? Why or why not?
Thanks for your help – I've enjoyed learning from you!
Chris
Hi Chris,
If you're redirecting the 'Blog' section (which is the articles folder) of your SPB site to your WP blog, then the first thing you need to do is change the '1' to '0' in the following line in the menu.php code -
if ($isarticle=="1")
Let me explain this … the default '1' above tells the SPB application to display the word 'Blog' in the menu if there is at least 1 article in the 'articles' folder'. Since you will not be having any articles in your articles folder (you're using WP instead), you want to tell SPB to display the word 'Blog' in the menu when there are 0 articles in the SPB articles folder … this is why you set this attribute to '0'.
(Remember when you change the attribute from '1' to '0', if you drop articles into the articles folder of SPB, the word 'Blog' will disappear from the menu … since you have told the program NOT to display the word 'Blog' in the menu if there are 1 or more articles in the articles folder.)
Now with regards to your specific question referring to the code line below -
<a href="article">Blog
The word 'Blog' is the term that is displayed in the menu … you can name this to anything that you want that is reflective of what's in your WP blog … for example, I renamed 'Blog' to 'Home'.
Hope this helps.
Andy
Hi Andy,
Thanks for that! Once I typed everything in correctly (I made some small errors) it worded like a treat! Now I can find a niche, build a blog around that niche and create pages that link back to the blog – dozens or even hundreds of pages. I have actually set up a blog on celebrity news – more as an experiment than anything else to see if I could automate posts, create pages and sub-pages. Does this sound like something that will work?
Chris
PS Thanks again for your help and Merry Christmas!
Hi Andy,
I've bought SPB on your recommendation and my first site is up and looking good. However, there is one issue I'm having and that is with the articles.
I decided not to nest SPB within Wordpress (but perhaps I should) and simply use the articles / blog function 'as is' for my own content.
Thing is, I click on the blog link and I'm taken to a page with all my articles listed along with short excerpts, which is great. However, when I click on any of the 'read more' links I'm taken to the page where the full article should show, but all I'm getting is the excerpt.
I know you are not SPB support but you've been so helpful and knowledgeable here that I thought I'd just ask if you have any idea what the 'fix' may be?
I've submitted a support ticket a couple of days ago with SPB but no-one has gotten back to me yet, perhaps because of the holidays.
Do you have any suggestions? Thanks. Great blog by the way.
Hi James,
The blog section is working correctly on my Learn Guitar site (which is a full SPB site).
Can you try using FTP to drop your articles once again in your 'articles' folder. Also please make sure your articles are formatted as per the instructions in the SPB manual.
If this does not work, and you don't get a quick reply from the support desk, try posting your problem in the SPB forum.
All the best and thanks for your kind words.
Andy
Hi Chris,
I'm just back after a short break. Glad to note things worked out well.
I am posting new tips on how to maximize on your sites in a day or 2.
Wish you all the best for 2010.
Andy
Hey Andy,
Thanks for that suggestion. Re-uploading the articles again totally fixed the issue. Thanks for taking the time to help me. You rock!
Hi James,
You're most welcome! All the best.
Andy
Greetings Andy,
You state:
"I only use my own hosted blogs … I either set up my blog in the root folder and then create an 'about' folder or where I drop the SPB site in (see Pregnancy site) or I install the SPB site in the root folder and create a 'blog' folder wherein I install the WP site (see Christmas site)."
Question(s) –
1) Why do you use two different root/folder approaches?
2) What are the pros/cons of each approach?
P.S. You do a great job at presenting the information,I really appreciate that.
Hi Herman,
Glad you found the post useful. To answer your questions -
1) SiteProfitBot website and Wordpress install cannot co-exist in the same location – hence one needs to be in the root folder and the other in a sub-folder.
2) I am inclined to install the SPB site in the root folder if it has more content than my blog and vice-versa. I do prefer, however, to install my blog in the root folder and the SPB site in a sub-folder.
Hope this was helpful.
Andy
Greetings Andy,
Thank you for responding to my comment.
You state
"I do prefer, however, to install my blog in the root folder and the SPB site in a sub-folder."
Question(s) -
1) Why is this approach your preference?
2) Is one approach, given that both have the same amount of
content, the better way.
3) How do you know that one approach will have more content then the
other?
Herman
Hi Herman,
1) Simply because I like to have more control over what content is posted on the front page of my site …
2) Both sources will never have the same amount of content … SPB automatically pulls content from the various sources based on social media tags. With Wordpress its more of my own unique content plus (if needed) content collated by WP-Robot based on select keywords. WP-Robot pulls its content from different sources to SPB.
3) Due to (2) above and based on the number unique articles and number of keywords I have for that niche.
Hope this is clear to you now.
All the best.
Andy
Andy,
Do you know if it would be possible to change folders after the site is live?
For instance, if I started with SPB as the root folder and my WP blog in a subfolder but found that I had more content over time from the WP blog, could I then put the WP blog in the root folder and the SPB in the subfolder?
All the best in this New Year 2010!
David
Hi David,
Its possible, but I would not attempt it due to the time involved …. its like rebuilding the entire site and re-indexing the same. Just move on to the next site … your time will be better spent.
All the best for 2010 for you too.
Andy
Greetings Andy!
Thanks for your informative response. I had purchased the SiteProfitBot software during the initial offering period, and wasn't quite sure how to best use it. Now based on your posts and comments, I will be purchasing WP Robot (from your link), and look forward to using the strategies you mentioned.
Thanks again for the great posts.
Herman
Hi Herman,
SPB is a very good product … I am pleased with my investment.
Please check out my latest post on '5 Tips on How To Use SPB'.
Feel free to post your questions on this blog … i will do my best to assist you scale your business.
Andy
Hi Andy,
I've been off for a while but I'm back into it – thanks for your best wishes for 2010! Please accept my best wishes for the coming
Can I ask you a serious question – and please feel free to assume I'm an internet marketing moron because that's fine by me – how on earth did you manage to make money with your guitar site so quickly? Am I out of line by asking you? Which programs would you recommend that spell it out for someone as inept as me?
Thanks for your help!
Chris
Hi Chris,
I have responded to your specific question via email. Hope it helps.
Please keep asking questions … we all are in a constant state of learning! I will be putting up a page on the tools I use in my business within the next couple of days. Hopefully it will help you and others who are following me.
In the meanwhile I would also recommend that you check out this John Reese program (see my post here) … the first module is free and it is worth tuning in.
All the best.
Andy
Hi, this is all very intriguing, but I'm a little confused -
If you put your WP blog in the root folder and your SPB site in a subfolder, in terms of user navigation your SPB site is still the main site and the blog is still a subpage called "Blog" right?
If your SPB site is in a subfolder called "about", when you give you the URL to the site, does that URL have an "/about" in it?
And from the blog, do you link back to the main site?
On your pregnancy site, forexample, which URL/folders are WP, and which are SPB – they blend so well it's hard to tell the difference.
Another question – I understand that your own keyword targeted articles will drive traffic to your site, but will the content generated by SPB be at all iinfluenced by the conent of your articles?
Thanks,
Eric
Hi Eric,
I'll take your questions piece by piece …
If you put WP blog in the root folder then it becomes your default 'Home' page. This is why I change the label of the 'Home' page of the SPB site to 'About' (you can do this by opening the menu.php file in Notepad changing the labels around – change 'Blog' to 'Home' and 'Home' to 'About'…
Yes, you do it from the menu.php page as described above …
This is the key here …. it should seamless … Wordpress is my root directory and SPB in sub-folder … on hindsight I should not have labeled the SPB folder as 'About' … but it does not really matter ….
Traffic to your site will be attracted by all the content that is on it (both SPB and your unique articles) … since they are related to the same niche/theme. SPB generated content is related to the keyword you provide it. For example in my Pregnancy site, the keyword I used for SPB is 'Pregnancy', whereas I could write a unique article on a long-tail keyword say, 'tanning while pregnant' and rank for it. Since visitors to my site are all pregnant/to be pregnant women they will find the overall content useful.
Hope this helps.
Andy
Greetings Andy,
You state :
"This is the key here …. it should seamless … Wordpress is my root directory and SPB in sub-folder … on hindsight I should not have labeled the SPB folder as 'About' … but it does not really matter …. "
Why should you have not labeled the SPB folder as "About," and what would be an appropriate name for the SPB folder?
Herman
Hi Herman,
Nowadays I name use the main keyword as the folder name …. but like I said, it does not really impact anything … I'm just a stickler for aesthetics.
Andy
What if your site is dedicated to 4 specific niche categories under one umbrella domain? For example the website is "Cheap Meals" and it is broken down into "supper", "lunch", "Breakfast" and "Snacks."
What would be the main keyword for SPB?
I am familiar with WordPress and WP Robot so I know you can add multiple keywords but the one keyword limitation in SPB has thrown me for a loop.
Great site by the way!
Hi Mark,
I would go for the market level keyword for the SPB site. Remember SPB generates a set of 20 most popular and 20 related (social media tag) keywords for the single keyword you provide it.
I too don't get it right sometimes and realize there is little or no content(or tags) for the keyword I provide SPB … so here's a simple solution …
If you don't find enough content (or even popular and related tags) for your main keyword, simply open up the config.php file and change the keyword. Then ftp the new config.php file to your SBP site folder and check the new results. Don't forget to refresh the cache folder in the SPB site when you do this (simply delete the keyword.html file from the cache folder). You don't have re-generate the site or update any of the other folders.
Hope this helps.
Andy
Hi all,
Just wanted to tell all those you are following this thread that whenever you make a change to the php files within your SPB site (even when you updated the fix JP released to fix the tags issue for existing sites), you need to flush out the cache folder and all the sub folders within the cache folder. Simply delete all the .html files in the cache main and sub folders.
On a separate note, I have been very impressed with the Internet Time Machine in its ability to help identify niche opportunities. If you haven't seen it yet, check out my post on the Internet Time Machine here.
Andy
This is to give you a quick heads up that Thomas at WP-Robot has just launched WP Shopping Pages – a new and powerful affiliate plugin for Wordpress weblogs. The plugin creates content-rich Shopping Pages filled with Amazon products and eBay auctions.
WP Shopping Pages adds keyword optimized content to your weblog on the click of a button, which can help you get a better ranking in search engines and thus will attract more visitors to your websites.
It is going at an introductory price of $69 ($20 discount).
Check it out here!
Andy
Hi! Thank you, your post is great. Anyway, I use Wp-Robot and it's really nice! Anyway, another plugin WPManagerDX seems nice too. But i don't really need that's plugin. What i want to know is there is another plugin to make wp-robot's post can be divided (means there is read more>) link?
**anyway,you can check my automatic blog: http://health.thegroovie.com
Thanks
Hi Randy,
First of all your site is very nice. Good job.
Coming to your question regarding truncating WP-Robot posts (particularly the articles), I believe this needs to be done in the plugin code itself. They have done it for the Amazon module, where you can set the limit to the number of characters in the description. Unfortunately this is something I can't help you with. You will have to take it up with Thomas at WP-Robot.
All the best.
Andy
Hi all,
I have just documented how I use SiteProfitBot based on the approaches I have highlighted in this and other related posts. You can download your copy of the PDF guide HERE (optin required).
Hope this helps.
Andy